October 5, 1997 1:30 PM
San Houston National
Report provided courtesy of Scott McNabb and widely discussed on Henry
Franzoni's old IVBC and among researchers and organizations of that era. The end of this report is a comment by Dr. Grover S. Krantz who noted the locked-knee locomotion of the alleged creature, which is a human characteristic.
Danny Sweeten was
inspecting some property that he was contemplating purchasing, carrying
a VHS camera and an unloaded gun in a box. The gun was for a customer
and Danny had just rebuilt/modified it, and was going to shoot it to check
it out before leaving the property.
Danny walked by this
creature and was almost beyond it, when he turned around to take a second
look and saw this creature laying on the ground, propped up on it's left
elbow, its right hand was laying relaxed across it's
leg in front of the
knee area, and it was running it's thumb across the ends of its other
fingertips in a motion going back and forth. He locked eyes with this
creature and stared at it for a little bit, and he said he knew he was
going to have to break this off.
As he tried to figure
out how, it went through Danny's mind that he was about to be killed by
this wild creature, so with the gun being unloaded, and in a box, he just
raised the camera to at least film the thing that was about to kill him.
As he started to raise the camera, the creature stood up and came towards
him, and rose up to full height, which was around 7 ½ feet tall,
showing a dominant stance. Then the creature raised its right arm over
his head and with the left arm it came up with its forearm striking Sweeten
across the chest. Sweeten thought he might have been struck by the elbow
too. When the creature struck Danny, he was knocked down, and two teeth
were knocked loose.
After striking Sweeten,
the creature quickly retreated, and while it ran away, Danny was able
to obtain video footage of the creature. The camera he was using did not
have the rubber eyepiece to it, because the owner of the camera had a
dog that had chewed it up. Sweeten never raised the eyepiece, he just
looked down the side in a fashion that hunters call "Barrel Shooting" and got the footage.
If he had been more
experienced he would have been able to use the zoom. Sweeten stated that,
as the creature briskly walked in a bouncy fashion, it was hunched over
in a stance that was not much taller than he himself was which is 6'1".
He described the creature as having a crest at the back of the head that
angled to a sloping forehead, and he said it appeared as if the face had
been lowered down. It had two ridges of hair running towards the back
of the head, from around the eye, the shape of face was heart like, with
a blunt chin. The eyes were gray and had a human shape, but sat wider
apart than human eyes do.
The nose was not flat like a gorilla, but a mix between a Caucasian nose
and an African American nose. The mouth was basically a human shaped mouth
with a little fuller lips, but not lips in human fashion, a little wider
and a little different, and he was able to see to front teeth which were
big squared off and yellowish and black in color. Hair covered the face
except the eyes, nose, and mouth, and was in a fashion like a man with
a full facial beard, but the hair came up under the eyes on the cheeks
and a little across the top of the nose (the nose part is best he could
remember on that). Skin color on face was a grayish/whitish looking color,
the palms of hands and the bottom of the feet were more flesh tone colored,
like pigskin. Danny stated the ears were human shaped, and it seemed that
they were possibly pointed to some extent, but wasn't real sure on this
Danny said the hands were long, probably about 14" from the wrist
to the end of the fingertips. Its fingers appeared to be skinny and very
long. Its arms appeared to be a little longer proportionately than a human.
The buttocks were small; the hair on the buttocks was matted and dirty.
The feet of the creature were approximately 15-17 inches long with a flat
appearance. If there was an arch it was very little, and human shaped
as far as appearance.
The creature's body was large and bulky with a V-Shaped torso, and a protruding
gut area. Even on the gut you could see the stomach muscles and other
muscles on the body of the creature. The hair was brown/black, the body
was a brownish color, and the tops of the hands were black, as well as
the insides of the legs from the crotch down to the inside of the knees.
The hair appeared to be very coarse hair, like a wild hog's hair, very
stiff. There was no appearance of a neck. The creature was about 3 ½
feet wide across the shoulders. Danny stated that the creature was definitely
a male, with an average size penis for a creature 7 ½ feet tall.
The creature had a wild animal odor. It appeared to make deep breathing
and grunting sounds; like it was upset it had been disturbed.
The area had many pine trees, possibly called Loblolly Pines, and some
hardwood trees and different varieties of Oak, there are also some low
land areas in this part of Texas with lots of Palmettos and other swampy
main river for this area is the San Jacinto River, which is short distance
from the sighting location. Another river in close proximity is the Trinity
River, which is approximately 15 miles from the sighting location.
The video footage was featured
on STRANGE UNIVERSE (A kind of Hard Copy type paranormal show)
In November, and the witness was interviewed on the Art Bell show (A syndicated
Some aspects of this video remain uncertain. The witness, Danny Sweeten,
stated that shortly after the filming of the video, someone began stalking
him; eventually Danny turned this video over to Strange Universe, to keep
the stalker from harassing him.
At the time of the incident, Sweeten was allegedly surveying property
for a possible land purchase. He and a friend were going to purchase the
land as partners to open a shooting range. Sweeten's friend, a law enforcement
officer was going to check the property with Danny but he was called in
to work early so he dropped the camera off by Sweeten's home, telling
him to film the area, so he could see how much timber needed to be cleared
Scott McNabb's research comments:
"To be honest and upfront, I consider the original footage hoaxed,
and anything produced by Mr. Sweeten to be highly suspect."
Last fall, a television show called Strange Universe began seeking Bigfoot
researchers so that they may show them a "startling" new video
of a Bigfoot, apparently attacking a person, who just happened to be able
to catch this Bigfoot on tape. The video aired, and the response was for
the most part, subdued. Various Bigfoot researchers appeared on the segment
speaking on the video. Peter Byrne was unimpressed to say the least, saying
"Its obviously a man in a fur suit." Peter Guttilla wasn't completely
convinced either way apparently and Loren Coleman expressed excitement
over the find, while keeping a level head about him, saying, "There
is the whole part about the witnesses credibility." Credibility
lieu of the fact that at that time, I was unable to obtain a copy of the
entire footage for enhancements, and even if I did, they wouldn't prove
or disprove anything due to the footage's quality
.Scott McNabb went
on to investigate the witnesses credibility.
On December the 29th, McNabb phoned the witness, Danny Sweeten, and spoke
to him for 3 hours about this and that. He's a slow talker. Listening
to his voice, he sounds believable.
Prior to phoning Sweeten, McNabb obtained notes from several sources who
had interviewed Danny. One of those sources was aksed to question Danny
about his teeth. Danny stated on Strange Universe and Art Bell that the
Bigfoot had hit him, knocking two teeth loose. McNabb instructed his source
to ask Danny if he'd had work done on those loose teeth, and if he had
a dental receipt to get a copy, as supporting evidence. Danny was asked
a week before the Christmas Holidays if he (Danny Sweeten) had gone to
a dentist or what happened to his two loose teeth. He was asked "Did
it knock them out or loose?", and Danny replied that his teeth "were
knocked loose." He was then asked. "Did you go to a dentist?"
Danny replied, "No, I pulled them myself!" Danny stated that
he didn't have any money to get his teeth fixed, so he had to pull them
During McNabb's conversation with Sweeten on December the 29th, he asked
him about his teeth. Danny told McNabb that he'd lived with his teeth
being loose for two years, until he sold his video to Strange Universe,
he used that money to go to the dentist and have his teeth pulled...and
yes, he had a bill from the dentist somewhere.
McNabb, making sure Sweeten understood, asked him again "a dentist
pulled your teeth?", he said, "Yeah, I went and had them both
pulled when Strange Universe paid me." He stated the dentist asked
him if he'd been in a fight; Danny replied "yes" to the dentist.
Danny said he had the bill from the dentist, and he would copy and mail
it to McNabb (Inaccurate Statement #1) Scott McNabb never received a copy
of that receipt.
Following up, McNabb spoke again to Sweeten on January 18th, 1998. Danny
again unsubstantiated his story - saying this time he had each tooth pulled
at separate times. One before Strange Universe paid him, and one after
they paid him. (Inaccurate Statement #1a)
Another point: previously another researcher had in his notes that Danny
had not been able to use the eye piece on the VHS camera because a dog
had chewed the rubber eyepiece off, that's why Danny had to "barrel" shoot the video. *Note* [Barrel shooting is a term used to describe the
method of looking down the barrel of the gun, and not looking through
the sights, in this context, the person video taping the footage would
be looking down the body of the camera]
McNabb queried Sweeten, asking him about the eyepiece, this time giving
him that info point blank. He stated that a dog hadn't chewed off the
eyepiece, and he didn't know where anybody got that idea. He said that
the swivel arm on the eyepiece was loose and the rubber was intact when
he went out to the woods that day. He said after he was hit by the Bigfoot,
he raised the camera, moved the eyepiece to look through it, and it swiveled
down where he could not see through it, that's why he barrel shot the
video. He went on the say that the eyepiece was gone when he left the
woods; he thinks the Bigfoot knocked it off. (Inaccurate Statement #2)
Again, during Scott McNabb's interview with Sweeten on 1-18-98, he asked
about the eyepiece. This time Sweeten said that he thinks the eyepiece
was on the camera when he went to the woods, but the viewfinder was loose,
because a dog had chewed on it. (Inaccurate Statement #2a)
During the Strange Universe segment, the narrator states, "Danny
went into the woods with a loaded pistol and a camera." Danny has
stated since that the gun was unloaded, and that Strange Universe misquoted
him, which could be true, but given other uncovered inaccuracies it was
possible Sweeten got his own story wrong again.
Make of this what you will, in an eyewitness matter; if the eyewitness
is proven to not be credible, the evidence he presents then looses credibility.
Scott McNabb made contact with Rhyser Entertainment, who owns the right
to the original Texas Bigfoot footage, to attempt to obtain a first generation
copy of the footage for enhancements. McNabb was told that the footage
was currently under litigation and he would have to wait.
Danny Sweeten was,
at the time, allegedly suing to obtain the rights to the footage again.
Danny sold the rights to the tape when he sold the tape itself, and now
that it has earned him so much attention, he wants the tape, and the rights
there in, back. When and if McNabb obtains the footage, a detailed report
of the findings will be released. However, McNabb heard from Rhyser on
Friday, March 27th, 1998 and they informed him that they cannot currently
release a copy of the video footage for examination, but will make contact
in the future when they are ready to have the video examined.
Interestingly, Danny Sweeten seems to have hit the jackpot again. Scott
McNabb went on to state, "I have received a copy of more footage
that Danny has procured, as well as audio he recorded. While the original
footage is somewhat hard to dismiss without the witness credibility problems,
the new video footage is very easy to dismiss."
Further he stated, "The audio footage has already been identified as a deer call possibly
played in a bucket or through a tube for a depth sound. I am convinced
it's a deer call, I'm just not sure how he gave it that hollow quality.
I made an audiotape of the sound and went to Wal-Mart, where a local artisan,
a wildlife call maker (He designs and builds animal calls, such as deer
and turkey.) was giving a demonstration. I played the audio for him, not
telling him what I thought it was or what it was supposed to be, he said
it was a wooden deer call, one that was probably about 3 inches long,
and purchased at a hunting store, a mass manufactured item, and it sounded
like it was blown in a small room."
The video footage shows a very suspect appearing Bigfoot in the distance.
The camera is initially panning back and forth several times, showing
then the camera pans to the right, then back left shortly
and back right quickly
just then a "Bigfoot" steps from
the woods and proceeds into full camera view. McNabb sent the videotape
to a well respected video analyst, Dave Bittner. McNabb stated, "I'll
quote his thoughts, which mirror my own, in full below:"
is very difficult to form any solid conclusions based on the video footage
provided, for a variety of reasons, but there are several aspects which
lead me to question its authenticity. When the video starts, the shooter
spends several seconds panning back and forth around the area where the
alleged Bigfoot appears. On more than one occasion, the shooter seems
to hesitate around the area where the subject later appears. This could
merely be a coincidence, or it could be that the shooter was expecting
the subjects appearance."
"The video is shot very wide, which hides any details of the subject.
At one point, the shooter zooms in slightly, then stops. Why didn't the
shooter zoom in more? There simply isn't enough detail in the video to
make any firm conclusions, but these factors make me lean toward skepticism."
Credit was given with
thanks to Dave Bittner, in Maryland for helping in this investigation with
his analysis of the new footage.
"I'm sure Danny's "luck" hasn't ran out yet, and I doubt
we've heard the last from him, but, from now on, perhaps he'll be able to
keep his own story straight. Danny said it best himself during my interview
with him, "If you tell the truth, there's only one way to tell a story,
if you lie, it'll never be the same story twice." -Given the inaccuracies
and the fallacies that accompany both pieces of footage, and the poor quality
of the footage itself, I consider the entire affair to be hoaxed, and possibly
an attempt by Mr. Sweeten to gain attention. Scott McNabb, primary investigator
Note: At the time this investigation was made in October of 1997,
Scott McNabb was a highly respected curator and investigator for the BFRO.
Since that time, he and Matt Moneymaker have gone their separate ways and
McNabb has retired from the Bigfoot arena. The report with an out-of-focus
photo is still uploaded on the BFRO, formally the BFRR website, however,
Scott McNabb's name has been stripped of any due credit or recognition whatsoever
for the work he did uncovering the facts on the Sweeten Case. The date 1995,
listed on the BFRO website is also in error, the BFRO website
did not exist in 1995, in late 1996 the BFRR website went up.
it became the BFRO. http://www.bfro.net/GDB/CNTS/TX/SJ/tx_sj001.htm
<--The BFRO killed
the link, sorry folks, that's the way they operate, then later rethought what they had done and uploaded the link again. As of October, 2004 the link was operational but no credit given Mc Nabb who was the primary investigator.
Report © Former
BFRO Investigator Scott McNabb, Tennessee exclusively for Bigfoot Encounters
W/permission, from the files of Bobbie
with this hoax: In viewing the Sweeten videotape, I noted that the
creature walked with locked knees. In an email from Dr. Grover Krantz,
he assured me his studies of the Patterson Film creature demonstrated
that sasquatches walk with bent knees. A locked knee walk is a HUMAN trait.
Whatever Sweeten filmed, it was human by Krantz's standards. The other
notation was that Sweeten was looking to buy property in the Sam Houston
National Forest. Whether the State of Texas allows forestry property leasing
or purchasing is another issue.
Purely from the standpoint of watching the film over and over, I also
believe the alleged bigfoot is a tall skinny man in a costume, -without
the biomechanics, skeletal structure or muscle tone of a sasquatch.
As an aside, Sweeten failed a polygraph, the videotape was hoaxed. ...Bobbie
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